Very typical, same arguments all the time from Democrats... blame the Republican Governor, blame the rich, use the environmental/green energy scare tactic, blahblah blah... Would not be surprised if Rep, Jesse White was also camping out at one of the ridiculous hippie, Occupy movements that made fools of themselves around our great Nation!

If Jesse White wants to do something about big gas and oil companies, why did he ignore the 23 customers of EQT that had our gas terminated ? We repeatedly asked for his help and recieved nothing!

Mr. Conklin, if you are referring to the situation in South Franklin Township, I did try to help several residents with the gas situation, but I was told by the residents that it was being taken care of; I have documented proof of this. It's not fair to say I did not try to help just because you did not see the desired outcome; if anything, it goes to my argument that the current climate in PA favors large corporate interests over regular people.

Kudos! Too bad the rest of the legislation doesn't make a stand. Rendell sold us out to casino and Corbett sold us out to gas industry.

Jesse, Do you feel the townships have a legal right to contest this law?

Jessie,
Thank you for being the voice of reason on HB1950. You make several good points. I can't understand why people think this is good for Pennsylvania. I would like to see Senator Solobay list reasons as to why he voted in favor of this bill. He certainly hasn't given any good reasons in the several e-mails I have exchanged with him. Election day will come sooner or later.

And with that my peace has been said and I'm out. Peace and prosperity to all

sincerely yours

The greatest political mind in history

@Be, my mother warned me about strangers in vans offering free candy and anonymous internet tough guys; you clearly fall into at lease one of those categories. Until you call me to have a real-life conversation like a grown-up, you can rant and rave all you want because you're not a real person to me.

until you refute what i said in public, it doesnt change anything. if you think i'm wrong, you can put it out there for everyone to see. you can insult me as much as you like. i feed on them like a ravenous honey badger. only truth elicits such defense mechanisms.

chuck, you care about your own interests, i respect and understand that, as every individual does first and foremost. its survival. its when people claim they have others interest before theirs that i know something is up. good luck with your fight. rare is the instance however that those fights stand in the way of progress. its evolution plain and simple.

the world needs these resources. it will take them. you, mr. white, barack obama, youre not big enough to stand in the way of the world taking what it needs. no one is. no one ever has been or ever will be. resistance is futile chuck.get what you can

Thank you rep. White for voting NO on this bill. People need to be before profit. This isn't an issue of who is a hippie and who is not - this is an issue of who is a christian and who is not. Destroying water or even potentially putting people in harm's way in the name of profit is NOT God's plan. People who love the economy and shale need to read a good book- called the Holy Bible. When you have people in the Commonwealth who can light their water on fire, children who can't take baths in their tubs, and people who can't breathe outside of condensate tanks, you should take all of your American - economic "values" and ditch them. People are more important and if the people who wrote this bill and support it believed in Jesus and or had a good moral standing then they would have never let it go through. Facts are in. People are getting harmed by this drilling. We shouldn't allow it. If we allow it we should regulate the hell out of it. Most people who sign leases regret it. Too late - damage is done. Rep White, you will come out on top of this one. Just wait and see. And in the mean time- all you shale lovers- pick up THE BOOK and discover why you are W R O N G. People before profit. That doesn't make someone a hippie, it makes someone a normal HUMAN BEING.

Rep. White, I do not live in your district. But if you run for a state or federal elected position, you've got my vote. You are smart, aggressive, and fair - my kind of elected official!

Mr. white is smart enough not refute me in public. He's been called and i'm holding the nuts.
I like chuck the world needs more chucks but unfortunately in this case your declining property values arent going to stand in the way of the world taking what it needs.

I think i'm going to cry. Liberals only put people first when its convenient and there is something for them to gain. more energy money and more energy jobs and more people tied to the energy business means more money and more votes for the other side. that is what mr. white is fighting against. It's all about individual interests, for chuck, for mr. white, for everyone. when we finally accept that plain truth, the blind will see the light.

you would actually vote for someone who insinuates someone is a child molester because they called them out on the truth. i guess that is what "tough" and smart are to the sheep

I think this "Be" guy needs to be in a padded room for a while. He's too incoherent to be a wackjob.

That's all youve got for me? The honey badger feeds on insults like his last cobra dinner mmmmmmmm!!!!. There is no debate outside of individual interests, because this debate is about nothing else, and these debartes never are..We can accept the truth that we're all individual interests that only care about ourselves unless there is something to be gained. This is human nature, no matter how much the liberals and bible thumpers try to change it, we're animals bent on the best known road to prosperity for ourselves. Everything else is what mr white calls "a sham". I bet if you took a scientific poll which no one would actually find out individual information, I'm putting the number of liberals who see shrinks or take mental health medications at about 90% of the population. I don't need pills or shrinks to justify what i do. My mind and conscience are crystal clear.

Let's keep it civil, please gentlemen.

So, "Be", are you mad at Mr. White for voting against the bill (an action it seems like you actually support)? If he did what you would have done, then what's your problem? You are just rambling and exposing your true ignorance. Make your point or leave everyone alone.

Be, you are putting forward a notion that humans are purely self-interested, and also define this notion as that of "human nature." Your comments are consistent in some ways with basic assumptions underlying mathematical modeling in certain economic theories, of which remain to this day mostly free of any empirical grounding (what little empirical testing has been done, confounds and even refutes them). You imply that your reduction of human nature to a simple concept (which can be modeled, understood rationally) is somehow more "no nonsense" or "scientific." This could not be farther from the truth. Coming up with simplifying assumptions as to what living things might be doing, and for what reasons, is fine. But it's not science. It's just reasoning, a step towards a mathematical model of a mental construct. One has to first attempt to make an assertion that is unambiguously falsifiable, and then test it with enormous care in cooperation with a skeptical community. Nothing of this sort has ever been done for any of the notions you are putting forward. Biophysicists, even with the most sophisticated of mathematical proficiency and technological sophistication are still quite often unable to understand what is actually occurring in "biological space-time" at levels of organization vastly more simple than that of a human being.

What little we do understand about nature is that both cooperation and competition and their interplay are very important forces, and considering competition alone isn't half right. And human nature is not a static thing a person can point to. Human nature is a process. Scientists that study life know that even the most sophisticated attempts at understanding life fall short, often vastly short, of the mark. They are humbled, they gain humility in the face of the complexity of life.

It doesn't have to be proven in a lab mr belcastro to be true. Counterpoint to that is you can't prove its not true. Being potentially falsifiable doesnt make it false. take mr white for example. Mr.white sees votes against him and money against him due to marcellus shale drilling. If it were advantageous for mr white to be for marcellus shale drilling, if money and votes were coming his way, he'd be all for it. Your point is taken, but i dont need academics testing untestable theories for grant money to tell me what is truth. Humanity speaks for itself.

Thank you, Mr. White. I am a registered Republican and I support your decision 100%.

what difference does it make if youre a republican. free yourself from the falsehoods of centrist moral high grounds. we see through the "sham". you support mr white because youre not getting your cut. your party affiliation is immaterial. so just say it. whats wrong with just saying im not getting a cut so im against, this is about money, whos getting some and who is not. the pros are getting some, the cons arent. these political "issues" are window dressing for the sheep. every single one of them. they just put a pretty face on the truth.

and embrace it

embrace it and we will truly be free, and the frog will become the prince, hide from it,shut it away, put pretty clothes on it to cover it up, it still remains a frog until you put your arms around it and give it a big kiss, if you vomit, it feels so much better afterwards

Be, what's your problem exactly? I took a stand based on my personal beliefs as well as the beliefs of the majority of my constituents. I laid out very specific reasons why I did so, because I felt the issue was so important and I wanted my constituents to understand my thought process.

Your argument, if I can follow it, is that you think I voted this way because I didn't get campaign contributions from the gas industry? Did it ever occur to you that I didn't get campaign contributions from the gas industry because of the way I vote, and because my vote isn't for sale?

I've asked you to call me twice now to discuss this like a man, and you haven't taken me up on the offer. The only conclusion I can draw is that you are either a contrarian fool who lives to complain without any rhyme, reason or purpose, or you're just a troll looking for some kicks on the internet. Either way, I'm done with you, and I am respectfully asking the editor to consider banning you from this site. You do nothing to advance the debate, and you are wasting everyone's valuable time, including your own.

Well said Rep. White.

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"It doesn't have to be proven in a lab mr belcastro to be true."

I wasn't implying otherwise. But responding further would take us to far affield of the six points discussed by the Representative above, so I think it makes sense just to let this one go.