Marcellus Shale Tax Credit Offered By White Defeated

'Today we blew a golden opportunity to procure jobs for PA workers in the energy industry. Where are our priorities?' state Rep. Jesse White, D-Cecil said Tuesday.

A Washington County lawmaker offered an amendment to a bill Tuesday that would have provided $25 million in tax credits to Marcellus Shale companies that hired 75 percent of its workforce from Pennsylvania—but it was voted down.

State Rep. Jesse White, D-Cecil, said Tuesday that the amendment, “which would have shown a real commitment to creating energy industry jobs for Pennsylvanians” was defeated along a party line procedural vote of 105-86.

“So we can give $1.6 billion in tax credits to the foreign corporations in the shale industry, but can't do a $2,500 per job credit for people who actually live, work and play taxes here?” White asked on his Facebook page Tuesday. “Today we blew a golden opportunity to procure jobs for PA workers in the energy industry. Where are our priorities?”

White offered similar legislation in 2010, which died due to lack of legislative action.

Pat Henry October 03, 2012 at 12:48 AM
When was the last time that one of Rep. White's pieces of legislation actually received a majority of vote's in the House?
Jason Parks October 03, 2012 at 03:03 AM
He's batting 1000. This and the co-p idea that was a bust plus the act 13 challenge that backfired. Now he wants to give job credits of a whopping 2500 so local employers can hire people who aren't qualified. I'm wondering why this guy keeps getting space on this site. He's clueless.
Jesse White October 03, 2012 at 04:50 AM
First off, I'm not going to respond to these first two commentors; they are clearly fake profiles by people intending to make personal attacks against me; all you need to do is click on their profiles and see that the only Patch articles they've ever commented on are mine, and they're all negative. I expect better from you 'psyops' boys. Second, neither the co-op or the Act 13 challenge were failures- quite the contrary. The co-op exposed the hypocrisy of how certain bad actors were treating municipalities which elevated the zoning issues of Act 13, and the Act 13 challenge was upheld by a Republican-led Commonwealth Court. The only people who would call them failures are people who work for those bad actor gas companies and troll around the internet with fake profiles spreading lies, so I can understand why you would both feel that way.
Pat Henry October 03, 2012 at 10:02 AM
You figured me out. What I bet you didn't know was that I wrote that comment as I was flying around in a black helicopter wearing my tin foil 'psyops' mind reading hat. But you again avoided the question. What was the last piece of legislation that you introduced that received a majority of votes? Your silence on this topic is revealing.
Jesse White October 03, 2012 at 10:56 AM
Just to shut you up, that would be SB 1546, which I wrote a gut and replace amendment to reform the property tax reassessment system based on legislation I introduced earlier this year. The proposal was a bipartisan effort with Rep. Rick Saccone, and we had unanimous support in the House of Representatives. That was June 30, or about 5 session days ago. As for the psyops comment, I think you doth protest too much. If you have any other questions for me, call my office at 724-746-3677, which we both know you would never have the guts to do.
GetItDone October 03, 2012 at 01:37 PM
It doesn't matter if he gets majority votes or not in my eyes... The true fact remains that he keeps trying! Never give up Jesse! We appreciate all that you do! Those that down you don't know the battle or the process apparently.
Monica Jensen October 03, 2012 at 01:54 PM
Pat Henry has a draconian and simpleton definition of "failure." Evolve, darling ape. The mantle of government - majority rules - is but one way to win a war. And there's one on for sure...keep fighting Jesse.
Debbie Ziegler Lambert October 03, 2012 at 01:58 PM
Your proposal involved a common sense approach to working towards getting PA people hired. The "other side" does not operate with any common sense. If they did, they wouldn't have taken our constitutional rights away. They remind me of little kids where everything is "mine". No sharing allowed and certainly no thinking of what is best for the people they represent. Keep up the good work and hopefully this current black/white/right/wrong/Republican/Democrat mentality will change, but that's up to them. As for your Patch stalkers, I hope they are not getting paid well by the Gasholes for their blogging because they are not very good.
Robin Kohlman Dublin October 03, 2012 at 02:00 PM
Keep it up Jesse.Never give up.We support you. THANK YOU.
Ralph Sweed October 03, 2012 at 02:00 PM
It was good legislation, especially since the jobs that these drilling companies promised are all going to out of state workers (I've never seen so many Oklahoma license plates). Perhaps if the gas companies took advantage of the new education tax credits and helped our community colleges develop job training programs locally, they would have a qualified local workforce. Keep it up Jesse
Candy DeBerry October 03, 2012 at 03:15 PM
Rather tells you who the majority of House reps are really "representing", doesn't it? Perhaps the same oil&gas corporations who are paying trolls?
Jason Parks October 03, 2012 at 09:44 PM
"Just to shut you up"..."...you would never have the guts to do"..."...you're delusional"...what happened to the Patch rules of being civil? So anyone who disagrees with this guy can be labeled and have to bear the rage from his Napolean complex? That's okay with you, Amanda? I notice White still hasn't answered a lot of questions. He has a habit of doing that. Hit and run tactics are for sissies. I'd like to know what will happen to the impact money White said repeatedly wouldn't be affected. I'd also like to know how act 13 will affect Shell. That's a lot of jobs and local money that will disappear. I also want to know how a 2500 dollar incentive helps any company if applicants can't get a CDL or work on a rig because they can't pass a drug test. Finally, I'd like to know why this is always a personal me versus them tone. You're supposed to be a representative, Mr. White. So grow up and start acting like one.
Amanda Gillooly October 03, 2012 at 09:56 PM
Yes I ask—and keep asking—everyone to keep it civil, please. Including Rep. White and you. That said, Mr. Parks, if you'd like to write a signed letter to the editor asking those questions, I would be happy to print them in that forum. Any other questions or concerns, just feel free to email me anytime. My address is amanda.gillooly@patch.com.
Pat Henry October 03, 2012 at 10:35 PM
Rather than respond to the incredibly insightful comment of "evolve, darling ape" I'll instead focus on facts. Rep. White was the primary sponsor of 25 pieces of legislation this session. As he mentioned SB 1546 passed (199-0) but he'll struggle to find other successes. Reviewing his record the only other piece that left committee was a piece dedicating a day to an organization. Beyond that 23 pieces never left committee. That's a success rate of 8% or conversely a failure rate of 92%. Most places I've worked wouldn't accept that track record.
Jesse White October 04, 2012 at 04:23 AM
I am a representative. If you are a constituent, please call me at 724-746-3677 and I'll be happy to sit down and answer any question you have. But you know that will never happen because your profile is just a fake persona used to attack me- it's beyond obvious.
Pat Henry October 04, 2012 at 10:04 AM
I never thought I'd see the day someone was bragging about an 8% success rate (more like 4% if you look at substantive pieces of legislation). I'm trying to relate now to expectations being set that low... In college there were a few times when the courses or tests were so hard that the test had an extreme curve, like in thermodynamics. Even then the lowest curve for an A ever was around 60%, so you still had to get a 30% to end with a passing grade. So no, I really can't think of a time when 8% would ever be considered good enough. But then again I deal in a world of facts as an engineer. I understand that there are intangibles in every position but based on everything you have written I'm certain you live in a world where neither facts nor numbers count. I've provided you your own words and numbers and you choose to instead question my character rather than answer questions. I wonder why that would be? I also don't appreciate the vague threats to my employer whomever you suspect it may be. I'm willing to bet that you're wrong again though, but with pride in a 4% rate of success I doubt that bothers you much.
Jason Parks October 04, 2012 at 12:46 PM
"You just look pathetic". And you just look immature and unprofessional. So much for civility. I wish people in your district would pay attention to how you spend your time. You're like a moody teenager. No, you're like the short fat kid in grade school who would go tell Johnny "hey, Tommy said you dress funny"...then you'd go over and tell Tommy, "Johnny said you smell". Just as those two were about to fight, they'd stop and look at you and you'd run away. You spend a great deal of time on this site. It would explain why you never get any legislation passed except tax credits for dog adoption. That's pretty vital to the local economy, I realize but maybe you could step it up in terms of productivity. Based ion the guy who wrote about your 4 percent success rate, maybe you should rename your self-labeled district as the "Failing Four". Grow up.
Jesse White October 04, 2012 at 01:07 PM
I will not debate anonymous commentors on a website. Please call my office at 724-746-3677 and I will be more than happy to discuss any issues you have in person. Have a good day and God Bless.
Amanda Gillooly October 04, 2012 at 01:07 PM
Come on now. Things are getting chippy. Let's fight nice, please. I don't want to start deleting comments.
Candy DeBerry October 04, 2012 at 01:30 PM
Jason Parks: You have obviously learned very well the gas company tactic of deflecting the attention from the question by attacking the questioner about issues that are not directly (if at all) related to the question. Take it back to the issue: the gas companies pitched shale gas extraction to PA residents with two main arguments: 1. jobs for PA; and 2. energy security (meaning the gas that was extracted here [in the U.S.] would stay here [in the U.S.]. The jobs aren't adding up. Not in compiled reports of actual employment data, and not in PA residents' everyday experience (for example, seeing the large numbers of vehicles with TX, OK, WY, etc. license plates that have appeared in the last couple of years). Or was this yet another very carefully worded, deliberately misleading statement by the gas companies - "there are more workers in PA, we never actually SAID they would be PA residents"? (The energy security isn't adding up, either.) As for Jesse White, he seems to be asking EXACTLY some of the questions that need to be asked.
Debbie Ziegler Lambert October 04, 2012 at 04:09 PM
When comments go off base like they have, the art of conversation is lost. Not every legislator gets to have their bills passed or even thoughtfully considered. Such is life. Placing a number on them does no good. Staying up to date on the facts and always trying to do the best for your constituents is what really matters. For that, Jesse gets a "A" in my book. Please don't debate people like that though, Jesse. You gave him/her your phone number. That they continue to post and not call you speaks for itself and makes them look bad to others. The bottom line in this thread is the lack of jobs for locals. I, for one, don't buy that they are all strung out on drugs and wouldn't be hired anyway. I know some that have applied and would have been good workers. I'm actually glad they didn't get the job and risk exposure to the hazardous chemicals, but that's just my opinion. I happen to like them. It's sad that any proposal put before the legislature falls along party lines. It's like dealing with bullies every day at work. If they can't have it their way, then it's no way. I'm hopeful that the next election takes care of that, but not optimistic because of the complacency of voters. On we go and I know that it must be like fighting a losing battle for Jesse, each and every day, but what matters is that you stay true to your convictions and protect your people. That, I am certain you do!
Jason Parks October 05, 2012 at 02:14 PM
Yes, I've learned all about deflecting attention from the question by attacking the questioner. I've learned from Mr.White since if go through the last six months of posts on this site, he employs that tactic every time he gets a hard question. And I didn't ask for a debate. I asked for answers. There's a difference. White has been quoted on this site in the past as saying the impact fee wouldn't be effected no matter what. Recently he said because someone followed the law and asked for a review of the townships regulations the impact money would be held up. I've asked twice which one it is. That's not a debate. If white doesnt want to provide answers maybe he should stay off public sites like this. Nevermind that he's happy to keep taking that state paycheck and I'm sure he'll be happy to collect that state pension without any argument but when someone asks him to explain himself he calls them names and hides. I can't be the only one who sees something wrong with that.
Shawn October 05, 2012 at 07:57 PM
I have a misdemeanor and just need a job I can live off of. It is a shame that those who make mistakes and do the penalty are cursed and have no choice but to do almost anything to LIVE. My point is just having the right to survive without doing wrong overrides all this petty political jargon.


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